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SSkyvington
Jun 29 2018
at 9:01 PM
I’ve read somewhere that Pat has something like 10 releases in the can, but three years have passed since his last recording without him putting anything new out. Just wondering if a new release or multiple releases are coming sometime in 2018. Would especially like to hear how he sounds with his latest group. Cheers.
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Antoñete
Sep 09 2019
at 3:14 PM
Bookmark and Share Sunship, try and find that article, please.
hman01
Sep 06 2019
at 8:34 AM
Bookmark and Share I know Pat has a phenomenal output of recordings which I still enjoy. But I’m really jonesing for something new!
sunship
Sep 05 2019
at 9:59 AM
Bookmark and Share Dear Frank Sexton, There is a recent article in Spanish out there and I can try to find it if you want. It states that Pat will release something new in early 2020. I think it is legit.
franksexton
Sep 04 2019
at 4:22 PM
Bookmark and Share according to the Tour schedule there is a break between Nov26 and Mar20 of next year so we can always hope that maybe he will do something between then.
franksexton
Apr 23 2019
at 10:54 AM
Bookmark and Share Until or if or when he does we can least either travel lond distances to see him or listen to what he has already released or listen to other releases. Bill Frisell and Thomas Morgan have two releases now the first of which reminds me a lot of Beyond the Missouri Sky.
naut
Apr 14 2019
at 7:03 PM
Bookmark and Share Thanks for understanding my tongue-in-cheek previous post which certainly wasn’t any kind of "attack" or real criticism of your eminence, mole. All play. I figured you would, but sometimes I sort of worry, since I am, almost completely, f.o.s. And you’re right: "Sweetheart" is another keeper from that great record. BTW, my mother became a huge Dylan fan in her late 70s, going so far as to see him in concert in CA. (She didn’t have much good to say about his showmanship, which, of course, is legendary.)
molesoulsandal
Apr 14 2019
at 2:39 PM
Bookmark and Share yea naut, like i said, we’re getting into the ’splitting hairs’ region - haha. all of those ones that we so adoringly speak of are wunnerful artists and the world has been changed by them . . . . . btw, ’sweetheart like you’ is also a shining gem from the infidels album . . . . all that ’to walk across cut glass to make a deal’ stuff just sends me . . yes it do.
naut
Apr 13 2019
at 10:15 AM
Bookmark and Share It’s a-ok to be wrong, mole. Cuz when yer wrong, yer wrong. (hehe) Let me refine my idea of literate so youz can come over to the right way of thinking. Joni is literate in a narrative way most on the records spanning C&S through NRH, reaching an apex, perhaps, in three middle albums, HoSL, Hejira, & DJRD. Her biblical recastings in "Love," "Jericho" and "The Sire of Sorrow" are exquisite and contemporary (as are Bobbie’s, but that goes without saying), as is her interpretative modification of Yeats’ great poem on NRH. (How’s that for a smidgen of critical b.s.?) "Lakota" is an amazing American anthem rather under appreciated. To me, the Beatles wrote many more imaginative songs with metaphorical power, humor, and melodic longevity than Joni, but I don’t really think they were more literate than she. If I implied she was "better" than the Beatles, forgive me. They are just different artists, each and all supreme in various ways. -- Love Infidels ("Jokerman" - court jesters & office holders; "Neighborhood Bully" - Israel; "License to Kill" - any so-called leader of the past 100 years or longer; "I and I" - Buber & orthodox religion; "Man of Peace" - so true; "Union Sundown" - "I can see the day coming when even your home garden / Is gonna be against the law") Hoo boy. One of my favorite BD albums!
molesoulsandal
Apr 12 2019
at 2:51 PM
Bookmark and Share i must most respectfully disagree witcha, naut, when you said that joni ’surpasses’ in a ’literary’ sense, the beatles . . . . i think she’s on par with them, but i don’t think she’s ’better’ . . . as you know, at that point, we’re really splitting hairs, anyway - haha . . . . . . . . . . . . dylan was a ’shooting star’ - his years before the legendary motorcyle wreck were as great of a 6, or so, years as anyone could ever strive for, but after that, no matter that he still sells out venues globally and croaks along dutifully, physically resembling more of a ’raisin in a cowboy suit’, than the rural poet and musician that he actually is/was, he’s only had a smattering of bright & clear moments, such as ’john wesley harding’, ’nashville skyline’, ’desire’, and ’infidels’ . . . . . but folks all over the world continue to praise him loudly, as if, on a consistent basis, over the past 55+ years that he’s just been spilling out ’high art’, which is anything but true, and anything but accurate . . . . . . there’s a lotta ’lying’ going on - more than ever, and sometimes it’s just too much, you know? what would it hurt to have a break from it? how’s about a coupla weeks sometime where virtually everything out of everyone’s mouths was awfully darn close to being true? how about it? and while we’re at it, how’s about a new album from pat, eh? i would like to hear another one w/anna maria jopek . . . i’ve heard her recent one w/branford and it’s pretty special, i think. and i would nearly give up the ghost to hear pat & esperanza do stuff together . . . . . would also love to hear another pat album akin to the ’quartet’ album . . . . you know, all that mostly ’spontaneous’, mostly ’acoustic’ stuff, w/some ’electrical’ drizzled over it . . . . whatever, it’s all good . . . we’ll just do these good things . . . . and in the truly immortal words of brother dave gardner: ’ . . well, it don’t make me no never mind - i believe that between swinging and not swinging is what moves us . . . . and it’s not so much the pendulum as it goes to and fro but rather the essence that drives it that makes us go - see! ’
hman01
Apr 12 2019
at 9:04 AM
Bookmark and Share I always thought it would be cool if he released a whole bunch of concert releases like Phish did a while back. Something like "Denver 2/3/94" or "Clearwater 4/9/2016". And they,d all be the length of 2 or 3 CDs. It would be like total overload, if there is such a thing with such great music. But now I’m just gettin’ downright greedy...
franksexton
Apr 11 2019
at 10:43 AM
Bookmark and Share just imagine some some in the future when Pat no longer is able to perform like he currently does and decides to release much of the recordings that me must have already made. I can see him easily performing into his eighties or maybe even nineties.
molesoulsandal
Apr 11 2019
at 7:57 AM
Bookmark and Share and in the words of bill murray’s character, jeff slater, in the movie ’tootsie’: ’ . . well, i guess since i’m awake, i might as well do some writing . .’
molesoulsandal
Apr 11 2019
at 7:55 AM
Bookmark and Share james taylor said in about 1970: ’joni’s the best one of us all’ . . . . always so true and generous, that guy . . . . her song ’talk to me’ is, indeed naut, a mighty thing . . ’till i pissed a tequila anaconda across the parking lot’ . . . . yeah, right . . . . . who writes stuff like that? roberta joan anderson mitchell, dat’s who!!
naut
Apr 10 2019
at 3:18 PM
Bookmark and Share I have to admit the "weak and a lazy mind" slipped right by me, mole. A person could quote Joni all day long and still have lines left to burn. She is, imnsho, the most literate of songwriters, more so than Dylan or the Beatles or even Patricia Barber, all of whom write superb songs, yet Miss Roberta surpasses them on literary merits (the evocative allusions of the title track on DJRD boggle the mind, as does the writing in "Talk to Me," to briefly name two songs), if not harmonies (Beatles win that one) and memorable melodies (Beatles again). You undoubtedly know this, mole, but word has it that Plato’s teacher once said something to the effect of "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." So you’re in good company, my friend! / And since I’m here, I shall answer S Skyvington’s question once again in the affirmative. YES!
molesoulsandal
Apr 09 2019
at 1:47 PM
Bookmark and Share oh, and hey naut, thanks for providing the ’u’ . . . . it turns out that, over time, i’ve known many people, professors included, who have used the spelling that i did, so i’ve always discerned that the 2 spellings were ’optional’ . . . but i looked it up (because that’s what we ones do, isn’t it? we look stuff up - we research - we spend time - we still know nothing - haha!), and evidently it is NOT an optional spelling, so i stand corrected, but still tall . . . . . . . . . say hey to whoever passes by, and let’s all hope for a new pat album real, real soon . . . . . .
molesoulsandal
Apr 09 2019
at 7:58 AM
Bookmark and Share guilty as charged, naut (haha) . . . the ’eskimo’ reference DOES, indeed, have to do w/joni, as does the ’a weak and a lazy mind’ bit, from her song ’peoples parties’ . . . . . . . while living on nerves and feelings, i have a tendency to quote all sorts o’ people, with great abandon, because i can, and because i think that’s one reason that we write all this stuff is so we can, again as joni said, have our souls circulated around . . . . and btw, that was a great henry quote!
naut
Apr 06 2019
at 3:28 AM
Bookmark and Share "gotdam ’religious’ jive or fairy tale fooking regions of a weak and a lazy mind": methinks you speak of MOST of "them" molemeister. "eskimo": Is that an allusion to Miss Roberta’s "Coyote"? BTW, here’s your "u". And finally, Pat WILL release another CD sometime, but as Mr. HDT said: "I have not the most definite designs on the future."
molesoulsandal
Apr 05 2019
at 2:30 PM
Bookmark and Share also naut - thanks for the tip on the linhart/joni website link . . . another great pat interview!
molesoulsandal
Apr 05 2019
at 1:58 PM
Bookmark and Share yes naut, i feared after i wrote that, that it would be misunderstood, as is so often the case w/such things . . . . i was, indeed, speaking metaphorically and have zero ties to any gotdam ’religious’ jive or fairy tale fooking regions of a weak and a lazy mind . . . . . it’s funny, i’ve got a song lyric that goes: ’ . . . make peace your master and lord . . ’ , and you wouldn’t believe (but maybe you would!) how often that people (the ones that don’t listen, you know) always think that i’m saying ’ . . make peace WITH your master and lord . . .’ . . . it really can piss me off, and if i’m in a buoyant mood it can strike me as humorous . . . . . whatever the case, dear naut, philosophically speaking, this eskimo’s a hopefully thoughtful ’thoreavian’, and not much else . . . . doesn’t really matter tho, eh? we’re all going to find out something, sooner or later . . . . .
naut
Apr 05 2019
at 2:19 AM
Bookmark and Share One site where the Linhart interview that kejur quotes is posted in full is jonimitchell.com: "Pat Metheny Q&A: A musician in pursuit of the perfect song" -- Bravo, mole. I agree with much of your 4-4 post, except maybe that part about heaven. Some people believe and some don’t. (There isn’t a hell either.) Perhaps you were only speaking metaphorically, and I can go with you if that’s the case. Your faith in the planet to us earthbound creatures, including all the animals and insects, birds and fishes, is laudable.
molesoulsandal
Apr 04 2019
at 1:39 PM
Bookmark and Share i rather think that just the ’idea’ that we now use the word ’interface’ with regard to ’music’ is a little cockeyed . . . . . . . . no matter how incredibly transcendently that pat and his bunch, and herbie, da beatles, and zawinul and lots and lots of other like-minded and butiful peoples of the art/music world have utilized ’technology’, i truly believe that every last one of them would agree that music played/sang mostly ’acoustically’, performed by more than one or two persons, with ALL of them being in the same room at the same time, etc., is probably how most of the music is offered up in heaven . . . . . dunno, just sayin’ . . . . i can’t help it - hearing the word ’interface’ used in conjunction with music is a tad disappointing to me . . . it’s sort of like using the word ’plastic’ to describe ’glass blowing’ . . . . . ’of the earth’ is STILL what’s gonna ’save’ us, if we care, and that particular ’new earth’ will never, ever, at no time, have any room for the ’artificial’ . . . . . . meanwhile, what’s gonna happen when they won’t actually need musicians anymore? - haha . . . . just kidding, but it IS a thought . . . .
hman01
Apr 04 2019
at 8:00 AM
Bookmark and Share Thanks Kejur!
kejur
Apr 03 2019
at 11:45 PM
Bookmark and Share I think that when Pat said "Interface" he was referring to the UI or User Interface. In other words, the design of the program or site and how you navigate it.
hman01
Apr 03 2019
at 8:05 AM
Bookmark and Share Thanks Kejur for the interesting comments from Pat. This may be an ignorant question. Can anybody tell me what the term "interface" means? Is it a general term for interacting with technology ? Or something else? Thanks!
molesoulsandal
Mar 26 2019
at 6:45 PM
Bookmark and Share hey kejur - thanks for posting pat’s comments about the interfacing, etc. . . . . . . . i think that pretty much says it all concerning why we haven’t had any recent new releases by PM.
kejur
Mar 26 2019
at 9:33 AM
Bookmark and Share From a recent interview: Warren Linhart: Your recordings are impeccable, and they’ve demonstrated that you are very particular about sound quality. Media as we know it (CDs, DVDs) is going away though interestingly, vinyl is making a resurgence. Streaming is the way it’s going and many people are not happy about that. Not to get you riled up but what are your thoughts on all this? Pat Metheny: I feel like right now is a particularly bad time for those kinds of issues, but it’s also the method of interfacing the music that we as musicians hope to offer to everybody and the way people are receiving it. It is absolutely horrible, not only in the sound department, but in dealing with Spotify, Apple music… any of these, it’s a nightmare because they all suck. Their interfaces are horrible. The whole thing is a big mess. I have 100 percent confidence it’s going to get a lot better someday, but I don’t know when that will be. I don’t think anybody has actually figured out how to get music to people where they can really experience it because the truth is no one has heard any record that any of us have made for the last 20 years in the way we’ve heard it in the studio unless you have a fantastic system at home and you buy the hi-res versions and even then I have a feeling a lot of people might not notice the difference. Good notes are good notes and something that’s great will be always great. I am lucky to have been able to live a life where I have invested every bit of currency that I have into music which is a bank that’s pure gold. You can not beat good notes. They live through everything.
molesoulsandal
Mar 24 2019
at 7:14 AM
Bookmark and Share like everyone, i look forward to a new album or two from pat and his gang(s), but again, we are all so fortunate that his catalogue is soooooooooo VERY VAST, and i truly believe that no matter how many times we listen to the white album or speaking of now, we will forever continue find new adventures and inspiration therein . . . . . that’s what’s so incredible about transcendent music . . . . it always keeps giving to, and enriching, the soul . . . . . it’s been a terrific ’ride’, and as always, i can’t wait to see/hear what happens next!!
kejur
Mar 23 2019
at 5:59 PM
Bookmark and Share At this point who knows what Pat has in mind? He doesn’t like the current state of music distribution. He’s happiest playing live. Hopefully the wait won’t be too much longer for the next release. If he has a bunch of stuff ready to go, hopefully the time between those releases won’t be years. There are few artists that I’m as excited about when it comes to new releases than Pat. He pushes music forward and I’ve definitely been itching for some new Metheny mojo.
franksexton
Mar 21 2019
at 11:05 AM
Bookmark and Share just think of how much recorded music there must be , both live and studio ! Good things come to those who wait.
naut
Mar 20 2019
at 3:25 PM
Bookmark and Share I think Pat is bound to release more music sooner or later; personally, I have no doubt of that. I think he’s just digging playing live everywhere all the time, with all the great cats he enlists for the music. It is, after all, one of his main passions in being a musician. But you’re right, Antoñete, it will be happy days when the time is right!
Antoñete
Mar 20 2019
at 2:19 PM
Bookmark and Share Well it seems that he is not but if he does, it will be one of the happiest days in recent times in my life.
franksexton
Feb 02 2019
at 11:35 AM
Bookmark and Share mole , the reason I asked you about if you heard of $100 guitar is that much of the music on it is somewhat out there, what you could call experimental. ZTOF could be called that as well, so could Sign of 4.
molesoulsandal
Jan 31 2019
at 1:56 PM
Bookmark and Share franksexton - hey, no, i dunno about the $100 guitar project . . . . will look it up, tho. ~ sidenote: was listening to pat’s opus ’everyday, i thank you’ this morning, and was remembering that pat said something to the effect that that particular song ’changed’ brecker’s playing - and it did - i noticed it, too . . . . . he just became even MORE ’fluid’, and even MORE ’true’ after that - it’s hard to pinpoint or explain, but everyone who listens understands, eh?
franksexton
Jan 30 2019
at 1:42 PM
Bookmark and Share hey mole I liked your post regarding ZTOF. Have you heard of $100 guitar project (http://www.100dollarguitar.com/) ? I wonder if Pat was ever asked to participate?
molesoulsandal
Jan 26 2019
at 3:17 PM
Bookmark and Share hey franksexton - i dunno, but i don’t think that PM is/was very ’bothered’ about critical reaction to ’zero tolerance for silence’ - i think he accomplished exactly what he was intending with that record . . . . now, mind you, it’s not my favorite pat record either, altho i don’t feel as strongly negative towards it as i did when i first heard it - normally tho, i prefer my ’outside pat’ to be more in line with ’song X’ or the stuff w/derek bailey, but i think pat did just what his vision was for that album . . he said that he was shooting for ’flat music’, ’2-D’ rather then his more usual ’3-D’ . . . . . . . . . . here’s a coupla funny stories about that album: pat’s mom lois, told me on the phone about 20 years ago that she just ’hated’ that record - haha! . . . . plus, i purchased it the day it was released in ’94, of course, brought it home, listened to it, got really upset, and even tho, like so many others of ya’ll out there, i considered myself gawd’s own pat fan, i swiftly went to the ole’ toolbox, pulled out a hammer and a long, thick nail, and proceeded to nail the CD to the living room wall of our domicile!! . . . . a very embarrassing thing to admit, but i did do that! . . . . afterwards, of course, a couple of days later, i took it down from the wall & went and purchased another one . . . . . so you see, i was initially a most harsh & severe critic of zero tolerance, and even tho it might not have been what i wanted to hear at that particular time, it certainly did not deserve a stake through it’s heart!! . . . . next time i have an urge to do such a thing i will make sure that it’s a kenny G album, or someone equally a parasite on the art world . . . . hahaha.
molesoulsandal
Jan 25 2019
at 6:36 PM
Bookmark and Share yossarian - for what it’s worth, BRAVO for placing the accent on pat’s ’body of work’ rather than grumping because he’s not put out a recent record. truly, i’m amazed how anyone could ask anything more (’new’, that is) of him!
molesoulsandal
Jan 25 2019
at 2:02 PM
Bookmark and Share i think that pat probably still verra much adores recording in the studio, etc. - for one thing, as is well known, he’s a complete mighty master of it’s processes . . . . . . . perhaps making a record is rather akin to writing a book: there’s a high level of ’finality’, or ’permanence’, there, and you want to make rock solid certain that it comes out precisely like you feel it & envision it . . . . . playing live/gigs, you get to ’stretch out’ and dance a bit more . . . in the studio, it’s usually a tad more ’calculated’, if only ever so slightly - (nobody’s saying here that ’wildness’ can’t be accessed and produced in a studio, too - ha!) . . . . . . . . i don’t know why PM hasn’t put out a record album lately, and in a way i sort of think it rather sophomoric to spend too much more time pondering it, but as i keep saying ad nauseum, pat metheny, and his circle, has produced soooooooooooooooo much multi-level material over the decades that i think it will be years, or lifetimes from now that all of us have sufficiently digested all of it. what a gift for everyone! . . . . and to insufferably continue on about absorbing pat’s vast catalogue, i really think that the ’fan’ can sometimes be somewhat infantile . . . . we know that the baby/infant hooman bean invariably wants to ’do it again’, whenever ’something good’ comes it’s way, whether it be a hershey’s kiss, or just a general kiss, or a tummy-tickle, or whatever the glorious ’feeling’ might be - they always want to do it again right away . . . . and i think that the ’fan’ of these various ’art’ idioms can be like that, too. you know: ’gimmee more - right now!’, and that sort of thing . . . . . . i truly believe that if ’bright size life’ was the only recording to date that pat had produced, that there is still magic things inside that we haven’t fully ’heard’ yet . . . . . shit, that’s what’s SO great about music, eh??
patsfan
Jan 16 2019
at 10:53 PM
Bookmark and Share Sorry, Mole, it seemed like something you’d say but I agree with Frank ... I think Pat is only motivated in playing to live audiences.... Well, after 40+ years how would you feel ? Especially remembering Pat’s interview approx 1985 where he described putting 100,000 miles on the road per year entertaining . That’s still in his blood ! An amazing record almost no artist today can match !!! I just think back ... I just listened to the ’End of the Game’.etc etc ... and I think that amazing creativity that will keep going and going .....
franksexton
Jan 16 2019
at 1:09 PM
Bookmark and Share I wasn’t responding to Richard, just making an observation about Pat. In an interview a while back he stated that his last group had recorded a studio session of all new material but was too busy playing be able to finish and release it. Who knows what else he has recorded. The fact that he as been touring almost nonstop for least a couple of years now and now is scheduling for another new thing points to how much he loves to just play. Pat is far more that just a player , he is a fantastic composer of music as well. I hope he finds the time somehow to release some recorded music for those of us unable to travel to see him in person.
yossarian
Jan 16 2019
at 8:49 AM
Bookmark and Share Just go with the artist. The economics have changed radically for sure. But Pat’s body of work is enormous and timeless so ’new’ releases are not the be all and end all. One area of Pat’s work which can be overlooked is the number of sublime vocal tunes, from Mas Alla to You there are quite a few beautiful songs for singers. It could be an area for more exploration, but of course it’s all down to the artist’s feeling, not the audience. Whatever happens going forward there is so much music - including sideman stuff - to explore that Pat’s ubiquity is hardly dissipating.
molesoulsandal
Jan 16 2019
at 5:01 AM
Bookmark and Share hey patsfan - i didn’t say that about rodby producing . . . franksexton did.
patsfan
Jan 15 2019
at 8:00 PM
Bookmark and Share Well, interesting ’musical touche’ between mole and Richard... I do think Richard is too $$$$ oriented as far as Pat’s motivation to make albums. Pat could probably give a hoot as to album profits ... really, here you have a legendary jazz musician that simply LOVES to play to an appreciative audience... period. And, as Mole says, it would take some extra motivation on the part of a ’Rodby’ to get the ball rolling.
franksexton
Jan 09 2019
at 11:42 AM
Bookmark and Share I think Pat should hire Steve Rodby to produce his albums. I think Pat just loves to play.
richardguitar
Nov 05 2018
at 5:51 PM
Bookmark and Share #molesoulsandal: Well sorry, I don´t think you have understood what this is all about at all...that you have something valid to say is the basic requirement met by any good musician in the first place. Its not about that music getting a chance to be heard, its about all the COSTS and WORK involved recording it in the first place, so you CAN theoretically through it up in the air...but why would you keep on producing without at least a minimal fair chance to recoup your investment in both hard work and money?? To make it simple for you, I´d suggest you check out John Mclaughlins State of the musical Arts, then it may be easier for you to understand what the problem is: www.youtube.com/watch?v=utqp7ECKUl0
molesoulsandal
Oct 31 2018
at 2:52 PM
Bookmark and Share richardguitar: take it easy, my man . . . all of this IS ’stoopid’ because, as pat himself said decades ago, if you’ve got ’something to say’, and it’s valid, then there’s a good chance that it WILL be heard . . . . there’s all kinds of ways to get your recorded music ’out there’ . . . . i am rock solid certain that pat has oodles of good reasons for why he hasn’t released anything for a while . . . . besides, and like i said before, these artists are not obligated to produce ANYTHING, EVER . . . . . these ’records’ are gifts . . . . . . . and, again, i think that most of us floating around out here have not 100percent digested ALL of the voluminous amount of recorded music that pat, and others, have offered up so far! so there, mate!
franksexton
Oct 31 2018
at 10:48 AM
Bookmark and Share as far as Pat’s net worth he is well off, I don’t he has ever been motivated by that. He just doesn’t want to put out junk. I wonder if he was affected by the criticism he received over Zero Tolerance for Silence .
richardguitar
Oct 30 2018
at 11:17 AM
Bookmark and Share #molesoulsandal Well, if it is all that "stoopid", why don´t you make the change and step forward by donating the costs to produce a CD of say g.e. 8000,- to any great musician of your choice, so she/he can write the compositions, pay the musicians, pay the studio, pay to physically press the CD or vinyl, as well as some promotion, and then throw it up in the air, to see were it all falls?? My educated guess is that: 1) you don´t work for free yourself (unless you are extremely wealthy) and 2) there may be some room left for serious consideration of what you are actually promoting... Chances are, that the results of the devaluation and thus diminishing production of meaningful well recorded music will only be felt in a while by enough listeners, so that a change of thinking may occur...just think about, why Pat hasn´t released any new music in a while, there is an answer.-
franksexton
Oct 18 2018
at 12:51 PM
Bookmark and Share i’m with you , thirdwind. When he put together the Unity band I thought it would be great for them to redo the stuff he did with Micheal Brecker. Turns the new stuff he wrote for that was way better. There is an already recorded but not yet released album with new songs coming, if you believe the interview with him I read sometime ago.
thirdwind
Oct 18 2018
at 2:05 AM
Bookmark and Share I thoroughly enjoyed tonight’s oldies jam in Denver. Can’’t ever get enough of the old tunes, and Pat’s very experimental with them now. Pat the Guitarist is still in his prime. But what we’re missing though these four long years since an album of new material is any contact with Pat the Composer. That’s his highest skill, IMHO. He’s a great guitarist at every level, but there are others. And some of my favorite songs had minimal or no actual guitar playing- for example, First Circle, The Awakening, and the orchestral passages of Secret Story. Then there’s the intricate counterpoint of the Orchestrion songs. Who else brings us these miracles? New compositions. New concepts. That’s what were missing without new albums.
franksexton
Oct 15 2018
at 10:28 AM
Bookmark and Share i read in an interview that the band he is touring now actually recorded an album of all new songs but he has been so busy touring he hasn’t had the time to finish it. hope its sooner rather than later. wouldn’t a duet album with Ron Cater be great also ?
naut
Oct 11 2018
at 8:45 AM
Bookmark and Share The mole’s on a roll. You go, bro!
molesoulsandal
Oct 10 2018
at 2:59 PM
Bookmark and Share i think it’s just all so much fluff, not to mention a little stoopid . . . . . why not just put out record albums because you love it and it represents a ’history’, a ’record’, if you will, of your musical growth over time? why not do that? - just like it’s always been . . . . as opposed to it being some manner of ’business venture’ . . . . . . this whole thing got blown waaaaaaaay out of proportion as far back as the late 60s & early 70s, after everybody wanted to have the same, what they thought was, ’financial success’ as the beatles/stones, etc. . . . . . little did they know that the fabs dint make all that much $$$ anyway - not compared to such sludge debris as madonna, beiber, and cardi B . . . . . . . . at any rate, any professional musician will tell you that, down thru the ages, you don’t ’make your money’ off your record albums - you ’pay the rent’ by touring and playing live gigs . . . . it has always been thattaway, and it always will be . . . . . so, i say, that if ya ’got something to say’, make a record and shoot it out into the social skyway, and let the chips, and the dollars & cents, fall where they may.
marshall
Oct 08 2018
at 12:05 PM
Bookmark and Share Streaming services and albums aren’t mutually exclusive though. I stream almost all of my music, but it’s stored as albums in the cloud. If I want to listen to The Way Up, I’ll stream The Way Up. What’s the deal here?
richardguitar
Oct 02 2018
at 9:07 AM
Bookmark and Share Scary development indeed, as much as the availability of so much music almost for free seems to be great on the surface, the drawbacks for the recording musicians are only too obvious. I currently find it hard to find a way around the hesitation to produce and release new stuff, although writing new stuff and getting it out to the listeners is my core mission in life...stopping really goes totally against the fascination of new music coming up in ones creative system, calling for to be brought into daylight as a new composition...well, at least we can play it live, but the listeners will have to live just with the memory of that performance...like in the days before recorded music. Maybe if those effects are felt on a big enough scale, the effective change fot the better may have a chance...till then its music survival time...;-)
BobSmith1
Oct 01 2018
at 12:20 PM
Bookmark and Share I was reading a few days ago that streaming services such as Spotify, Tidal, etc., now account for around 75percent of all music sales now. 75percent! CD’s 10percent, digital downloads 10percent, vinyl a few percent and the remaining percent all the other stuff, paid radio, etc. Really a changed world and I imagine that Pat is thankful that the heyday of his early work, by far, happened in the old era.
richardguitar
Oct 01 2018
at 11:36 AM
Bookmark and Share Being a guitarist, composer as well label owner myself, I can totally sympathize with the reluctance of releasing a new CD these days, since just sinking away in the streaming desert is a total disaster for any musician bringing about the work with all it entails for free - it is plain disrespect and theft by those major companies, who make plenty of cash via adsales on the back of creative people all over the world. A true motivation killer, until CDs or downloads in some sort of way at least theoretically allow for an artist to have a fair chance to recoup his costs and efforts. Artist Share is great, but who really wants to go "begging", beyond and on top of all the work to produce and release a CD, no matter how one burns for the music? It is just frustrating and very hard to move on despite all these developments- sure, playing live is great, but where will we culturally be in 10 years?
kejur
Sep 22 2018
at 6:25 PM
Bookmark and Share https://www.sheltonherald.com/116263/pat-metheny-finds-inspiration-inside-music/ AV: Is a new album in the works? PM: Like many musicians, I am trying to figure out exactly what the future of recorded music is as the music business changes. At the moment I have five completed albums that I have not put out yet as I am waiting to see where things are going. All of them are very different and I look forward to a time I can release them in a great way for people to enjoy.
naut
Sep 08 2018
at 6:31 PM
Bookmark and Share Well put, mole. Of course, I don’t really know what’s going on with Pat and the future of his releases, but I will say this: It can be rather difficult to feel hopeful or creative in this period of political upheaval and foolish, ignorant, childish leadership. Some artists may claim that this kind of distress bolsters creativity, which may be true for some. In all likelihood Pat is well above the fray of politics, as he often looks to the future in his talks, and his music is certainly timeless and his catalogue one for the ages. So thanks for your thoughtful comments, Mr. Sandal.
molesoulsandal
Sep 07 2018
at 2:38 PM
Bookmark and Share maybe just listen to the albums that have already been released to the public up to this point . . . . . . . myriad listenings of any of them couldn’t even begin to reveal every single treasure that lies within, as am sure you know . . . . . . . . . i think in one way, pat, and many other such prolific artists, have already ’put out enough records’ . . . . . . i respectfully and humbly do not believe that record albums are something that these folks are ’obligated’ to produce . . . . i see them as ’gifts’, and do not think we would have the ’right’ to ask for them . . . . . we all want to hear ’new recorded stuff’ from pat, and others, but until i’ve completely & 100percent digested all of the previous stuff, i guess that i’ll just have to ’lump it’ - haha!! (and i’ve been listening intensely/devotedly to PM since 1976!!)
mkitahara
Sep 07 2018
at 2:32 AM
Bookmark and Share Perhaps Pat doesn’t recognize the magnitude of his legacy. This guy’s music has been an integral part of my life. I’ve had the great fortune of traveling all over the world and his songs remind me of so many places, moods, textures, events, seasons and on and on. It’s the bulk of what I always listen to. Just as sports superstars want to win championships, Pat’s legacy should be to produce the finest works he can with the time he has left. Touring is great, but make up on a very small percentage of his fans, who can’t afford or are geographically incapable of seeing him live.
kejur
Sep 03 2018
at 6:45 PM
Bookmark and Share I think he’s just really enjoying touring right now. I’m hoping that there will be at least 2-3 releases from Pat before the end of 2018.
Oystein
Aug 15 2018
at 9:17 AM
Bookmark and Share From my little corner of the world, it can be frustrating to only be able to experience new stuff from my favourite artist in live shows. He doesn`t visit Norway that often, and for me there is a whole lot of time and money involved in a trip to the US...:-) So, a brand new, shortly-to-be-released, group album would be just fine, thank you!
MarcNebo
Aug 14 2018
at 10:21 AM
Bookmark and Share Stand by for news. Trust me.
thirdwind
Aug 07 2018
at 4:06 PM
Bookmark and Share That’s disturbing. To think that one of the most successful and acclaimed musicians of our time has new work sitting on the shelf because of business reasons... that’s a great failure of the marketplace, and an aesthetic tragedy. I know that album sales are suffering, but other artists are still releasing them. Bill Frisell, for instance, has put out four albums in his own name since 2014, plus many side gigs. Every unknown artist I hear tries to sell me their latest CD. So this is hard to understand. Pat’s made great records in a few hours’ studio time (on ECM), and he’s made costly, ambitious projects (like Orchestrion). Some way or another, it seems like he could put out a record if he wanted to. I’d surely buy it! Maria Schneider, a composer and bandleader who I place on the same high shelf as PM, had many delays in getting new work released. Now she’s with ArtistShare, a subscription model that gives access to rehearsals and other bonus material that give fans a look at the work at it evolves. I’d be delighted to buy into that kind of arrangement supporting Metheny’s music. I’m sure he’s had a chance to consider that, too, so I remain befuddled and disappointed by this long hiatus.
kejur
Aug 05 2018
at 4:38 AM
Bookmark and Share From a recent interview in the Berkshire Eagle: Q. What projects are you working on currently? New album coming out soon? A. I have several really exciting records done at the moment and, like many musicians, am wrestling with the realities of what recordings mean in today’s world. Touring and playing gigs has always been the primary destination for me. As an improvising musician, it is what you can get to night to night that is the actual final "product" of your efforts. Early on, I think I thought the records were more like an ad to get people to come to the gig. But I really appreciate now that they turn out to be much more than that. But nevertheless, I am already pretty well acclimated to the way things are set up now in the "new" music business where it is really mostly only about live performance anymore. That is basically the way I have always approached it anyway.
molesoulsandal
Jul 12 2018
at 7:39 AM
Bookmark and Share naut - that’s exactly why that i frequently use the ’ha’ bit . . . . i didn’t used to, but people would often not ’get it’ when i was doing tongue-in-cheek, or whatever, and so in order not to have any confusion, nor the oh-so-dreaded ’misunderstanding’ with the ones who ’don’t listen well’, i have resorted to using the ’ha’, and all that . . . . i’d rather not, because my mother used to use ’ha’ ALL THE TIME when she would write me letters, and i always kind of didn’t dig it, but i’d rather do that than having recipients of my info think that i was being serious when i was just joking around . . . . . btw, i thought what you wrote was hilarious, especially the ’wes-wannabe’ thingie, and i’ll bet pat would chuckle at it, too! . . . . . . . let’s hear it for ’elevated humor’!!!
thirdwind
Jul 10 2018
at 11:45 AM
Bookmark and Share I was just now pondering this question on another forum. It’s been four years since the last all-new Unity Band album came. That debut concert for his composition with the L.A Guitar Quartet was almost two years ago, and it’s still not available, I don’t think. Not that Pat owes anything more, but I’d certainly like to hear more. He’s my favorite composer, after all. At this rate, I won’t live to hear those ten albums! This kind of dry spell has no precedent in his long career, and I can hardly even speculate why. The last US Unity Group tour, almost two years ago, had two or three new songs (and at least one new wild, intense guitar sound), but without recordings to back them up, even Pat’s robust melodies don’t sink in. If you’ve seen the PMUG lately, how much new material was played?
naut
Jul 09 2018
at 3:59 PM
Bookmark and Share Ah, come on, folks. Who wants another mediocre album from a washed-up, has-been Wes-wannabe who’s only been toodling along for the past forty years, barely getting by artistically and musically? ME! That’s who! (Ha! as mole would say.) -- I didn’t get to see the Evening quartet either, but they’re making a swing through my neck of the woods in autumn, so I hope to catch them then--maybe twice if I’m lucky. (BTW, that first part was a joke; I say this for the benefit of those who sit in judgment.)
Kooltrane
Jul 09 2018
at 7:57 AM
Bookmark and Share Let’s not get greedy folks.
patsfan
Jul 03 2018
at 10:41 PM
Bookmark and Share You know. .... Pat has produced so many great albums in the past 40 years that I can’t believe that it’s possible to produce anything better. But I’m looking forward to his next album and a whole new dimension .. that he seems to conjure up repeatedly.
hman01
Jun 30 2018
at 10:30 AM
Bookmark and Share I’m hoping for another recording to add to his already massive output. The usual fan wanting even more! I’m anxious for a release with his "Evening with Pat Metheny" band. It’s the only show I had to miss in 35 years. But, I’ll take anything because I know it’s all great!
molesoulsandal
Jun 30 2018
at 9:40 AM
Bookmark and Share am likewise looking forward to a new pat album with the current touring quartet . . . . have not heard one note of their stuff, but can’t wait!
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